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About to be an industrialist in EVE

Today I got a question via twitter about my motivation to be an industrialist about good things as indy in a corp and about worst things.
Maybe my point of view could be interesting to others, so I will post my answer here also (with some slightly changes):

To be honest, my view of manufacturing and trading have changed the last year. But first things first.
I started my eve career like most others.. in highsec..mining.. all that stuff. Our corp had a pos and some of my „older“ mates were running some ME/TE jobs. So I started to get some information about all the industrial stuff. One reason was, I really like to create things. Crafting was always a thing for me. And there were so much ways for perfection, which triggered me also. I hadn’t that much ISK at that time.. around 500mil ISK maybe and I talked to some experienced players about how to get more ISK. This was the moment, where I started my trading stuff.
That was the time of great spreadsheets also and I made my first 10 bil really fast. But it was a boring thing (I gave up trading the small stuff today). I invested the new ISK to start my manufacturing career (that was before the great manufacturing changes). And with the help of the corp pos, there were enough possibilities to make money with manufacturing also, but the really big money came after I trained for T2/T3 invention and manufacturing. At that time I had 3 or 4 chars running inventions and manufacturing jobs 23,5 hours a day. The good thing on manufacturing (and invention) is: you don’t have to be that active. Yes, you have to plan your jobs, but besides let RedFrog haul your stuff. The jobs will run without you most of the time.

Yeah there some risks, like wardecs, but you should have friends in case you need help. (more on that later).
Shortly after that, I started to PVPing with my main, and let my alts run the industrial stuff. I’m not that active in highsec anymore and there are times, where the POS is just burning fuel doing nothing ;).

Today, I could build up nearly everything, if i want and can create up to around 10billion a month, if needed, but this would need more time to invest in manufacturing and planning.

As you see, I evolved a bit. Today I run my manufacturing alts to create enough ISK for my PVPing and to support some friends with ships, modules and so on.
Maybe my focus will change a bit after the next expansion.
Maybe I will move my industrial part to low or nullsec to build something new, but maybe I just use the new opportunity to use more ressources to pvp.

To talk about the industrial in corps: it depends. Is it an industrial corp or a pvp corp with an industrial wing? One of the problems with manufacturing is: the more ppl manufacture in your systeme, the less isk will you get, thanks to the index. Another one is: normally you want to optiminze your ISK flow, so many industrialists are lonewolfs and don’t want to build for corp for example.
And with the rights management atm, you have to risk your assets to grant access to other corpmates. so it’s not that easy to be an industrialist in a corp.
An important Thing is: have friends!
One of the things I learned the last years. If you are an industrialist in highsec, there will be wardecs. This is no bad thing. You shouldn’t fear wardecs. Just have friends to help you.. to move stuff, to haul and the most important: to defend your stuff.
To be honest. If a war results in blowing up ships: good for me as industrialist, because I can build them and make my cut.
And it is fun to surprise some lazy wardeccers with a prepared fleet. If you don’t have enough friends.. hire some TRUSTWORTHY mercs.. the worst thing you can do (as lonewolf or as corp) is.. to avoid conflicts, to give up. Go and train your PVP skills.
Yeah, you will loose a lot of ships, yeah there will be times, you are frustrated, but this will help you a lot at that times.
And it is so much fun. You will shoot some awesome ppl. Some awesome ppl will shoot you.. and if you end up in a good talk after it or (what is my favorite) you will have some drinks with them at one of the great player gatherings.. you will have a great time.

Capital production ftw. Some idea’s for the future

Because I have some alt’s for producing stuff amongst other things, while my main destroy ships in faction warfare and because I train for some capital skills at my main, I started the idea to produce capital ships.

This is a huge venture and will consume billions of ISK for buying several BPO’s before I can even start. But fortunately a mate have some of the BPO’s I need and he is willing to share them with me.

So the steps I finished planning so far are:

– Determine, which Capitals are used (and which were most destroyed)
– Determine, which construction parts are better to build by myself and which are cheaper to buy
– Determine, how much ISK do I need to buy all the BPO’s I want
– Determine the rough ROI on the Venture

The steps, which still need to be planned:

– Determine, where to build (Station, because POS in Low/Null is no option atm)
– Determine all the hauling stuff (Should I buy a JF by myself or use Alliance services?)
– Determine, how/where to buy ressources/parts and how/where to sell the capitals

I don’t want come into a rush about this and will check all my calculations over and over again, but if it’s worth and if I have a solid plan, with all questions answered, this will be my next task for my alts, while I shoot more caldari scum to free the gallente space. 🙂

So stay tuned. Maybe I will create a twitch channel about capital construction, if I start.

Back again, broadcast4reps, factional warfare (and a small financial report inside)

Yeah I know, I promised to be more active and to deliver more financial report’s, but several aspects were against me.

First of all: The Division. To be honest, I really like settings like this. End of days scenarios are great. And I really had fun before all this falcon lost glitch/exploit thingies. Maybe I’m too old to see, why I should use exploits. I mean, what does it say about my skill?
So, yeah. I played a lot The Division in the last weeks since release.

Another timesink was my work, as always.
There were several workshops all around europe, so I had to travel a lot. Much more than I expected before. Damn parental leave of two collegues.  I really hope to have a bit more time yet until summer.

Last, but not least several projects around Eve and some beside of it.
I trained some alts to be part of the great Red-Frog logistics. I used it a lot, before and I will use it much more now. The Red-Frog guys are great. Some really nice player with lot of experience, how to haul (mostly) save.

I also read and watched all around the Fanfest. It was a pleasure and I was really jealous not to be there. I promised to myself to fly to Iceland next year and already started to save some money for it.

There some good summaries out there. Go and read all about the stuff that will happen this year.

So all in all I had not that much time for my industrial stuff in eve. I have done some inventions and built some stuff. But that’s all.

The result is: Not that much profit for the last months.


Besides, I bought several skillbooks around freighters and capitals and some more expensive ships. So I should have more ISK, but I was too lazy and wasteful.

In faction warfare, everything is almost the same, as last time. I have flown some times with my alliance mates and really had fun with the Drunken Thrasher Fleets (TTT 😉 ).
The only thing, that make me sad, is the change of some of my old corpmates to another corp in the alliance, but I can totally understand why. Maybe I will change also in near future, but again. I need more time to play. I don’t want to be an inactive member at a corporation like this.

An important thing grown on some experiences in the family in last days: If you have problems and need to talk about it. If you think, there’s no reason to live. If you see no solution or whatever distress you have:
Don’t hesitate to broadcast4reps. I can’t say this hard enough. You’re not alone. There people that have a good word for you. They’re listening.  They try to help. No matter what.

We are a great community. And Eve would be nothing without this community. It’s the heart and the soul. All the gaming shenanigans are nice and super fun. But the community behind them is, what keeps me playing.

Conclusion for this entry: I will try to participate more at the alliance fleets (and eve in general). I plan to fly to the EVE Fanfest 2017. I need to figure out, how to combine my highsec and my lowsec activities. And last but not least: broadcast4reps, if you need help!